Fan mods taken a little far?

[Fantafaust]

I agree with Mick. None of what you're saying sounds very accurate.
I myself plan to have 2 major fan mods on my Ps3. The first will pull a very large amount of air into the Ps3, with a replaceable/washable filter to keep out dust. The second will be a stronger set of fans that will pull air out of the Ps3, and away from the intake. Then as a case mod, I'll add a modular slot for a digital thermometer, and I'll open up the case a bit for air flow. And while I'm not much of a fan for crazy amounts of LED's, I might through in a few that are connected to an external but seamless battery pack that I can recharge. The battery pack will probably also be modular, and have a switch.

[Bounkass]

Whatever you do, do not, I repeat, DO NOT force air into the PlayStation 3. This will only make heat problems worse. Compressed air can get very warm. There's only 1 reason why turbo charged cars need intercoolers. To cool the air coming from the turbo. I know, the air isn't channelled funnelled to any specific spot, but it can still get pretty warm. So warm even, you can't place your hand behind the PlayStation 3 because it's just to warm.

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wait what? compressed air dosent get warm. it gets colder, im pritty sure thats physics bro. and turbos need intercoolers because the hot exhaust goes through the turbo and heats it up and it in turn heats up the cold intake air as it goes through a different part of that turbo. nothing to do with compression.

I agree with Mick. None of what you're saying sounds very accurate.

Sorry, no. Compressed air does get warm. I even forgot the exhaust part, lol.

If you treat air as an ideal gas (as people do in most thermodynamic analyses), you can simplify the relationship of pressure (P), volume (v), and temperature (T) to the following:

Pv = RT

You can rearrange the math, and see that

P = RT/ v

Now with a constant specific volume, such as in a rigid container that you'll find most compressed air in, and a constant value of R, you'll see that the only non-constants are Pressure and Temp.

Therefore you can conclude that an increase in pressure results in an increase in temperature in your closed system rigid vessel.

So there you have it, compressed air get warm.

An intercooler, or charge air cooler, is an air-to-air or air-to-liquid heat exchange device used on turbocharged and supercharged (forced induction) internal combustion engines to improve their volumetric efficiency by increasing intake air charge density through nearly isobaric (constant pressure) cooling, which removes the heat of compression (i.e., the temperature rise) that occurs in any gas when its pressure is raised or its unit mass per unit volume (density) is increased.

[Mick]

you need to get off wikipedia and into the real world. do you have a turbo in your car? im guessing no otherwise you would have a idea of why turbos need intercoolers

[Bounkass]

Guess again.

[Jsamp]

Bounkass dont use the report function because you didnt appreciate micks post. Dont do it again. The report function is for REAL "insulting" posts, spam, pirated content or other against the rules posts.

[Bounkass]

Bounkass dont use the report function because you didnt appreciate micks post. Dont do it again. The report function is for REAL "insulting" posts, spam, pirated content or other against the rules posts.

It was insulting in my opinion.

you need to get off wikipedia and into the real world. do you have a turbo in your car? im guessing no otherwise you would have a idea of why turbos need intercoolers

See bold.

[ERIFNOMI]

Turbos have intercoolers because cold air is denser to start with allowing you to compress the air further. That doesn't look like it has an intercooler. Anyway, with the PS3, you aren't increasing the pressure inside the case. It has holes for air intake as well as exhaust. By forcing more air in, you're forcing the hot air out as it becomes replaced. You can't compare it to an engine. During intake, a cylinder has no exhaust, so pressure increases as air is forced in by the superchargers.

EDIT:
What mick said isn't very insulting. It was kinda mean, yeah. But he was right and nothing he said was against the rules.

[Bounkass]

Turbos have intercoolers because cold air is denser to start with allowing you to compress the air further. That doesn't look like it has an intercooler. Anyway, with the PS3, you aren't increasing the pressure inside the case. It has holes for air intake as well as exhaust. By forcing more air in, you're forcing the hot air out as it becomes replaced. You can't compare it to an engine. During intake, a cylinder has no exhaust, so pressure increases as air is forced in by the superchargers.

1. That's becuase the front isn't visible in the picture, it's about a foot lower...
2. And it's not finished yet. I'll make a picture of the intercooler when I'm in the garage again.

During intake, a cylinder has no exhaust, so pressure increases as air is forced in by the superchargers.

Lol wut? Turbo's. Superchargers are something else...

[ERIFNOMI]

Turbos have intercoolers because cold air is denser to start with allowing you to compress the air further. That doesn't look like it has an intercooler. Anyway, with the PS3, you aren't increasing the pressure inside the case. It has holes for air intake as well as exhaust. By forcing more air in, you're forcing the hot air out as it becomes replaced. You can't compare it to an engine. During intake, a cylinder has no exhaust, so pressure increases as air is forced in by the superchargers.

1. That's becuase the front isn't visible in the picture, it's about a foot lower...
2. And it's not finished yet. I'll make a picture of the intercooler when I'm in the garage again.

During intake, a cylinder has no exhaust, so pressure increases as air is forced in by the superchargers.

Lol wut? Turbo's. Superchargers are something else...

Ah. In that picture, I couldn't see an intercooler, but I believe you.

About the turbos being different from superchargers....I knew you were going to say that. Yes and no. They're the same thing for the purpose of this discussion. In fact, turbos are actually turbo-superchargers. Both turbos and conventional superchargers compress are as it's fed into the engine allowing for more fuel to be burned, therefor increasing power. Turbos use exhaust gases to turn the turbines while superchargers are connected to the engine mechanically. This means superchargers actually use some of the engines power, but they're more effective in the low end than turbos which need the exhaust pressure to be high enough to spin fast enough. This causes turbo lag but isn't such a problem anymore with the advent of twin turbos (smaller one for low end then bigger one later on) and variable geometry turbos. Now I'm way off topic, so I'm leaving it there.

[Jsamp]

Bounkass dont use the report function because you didnt appreciate micks post. Dont do it again. The report function is for REAL "insulting" posts, spam, pirated content or other against the rules posts.

It was insulting in my opinion.

you need to get off wikipedia and into the real world. do you have a turbo in your car? im guessing no otherwise you would have a idea of why turbos need intercoolers

See bold.

Seriously? You find that insulting? You need to quit being a whiny little girl. Im serious dont report something so minor again. If he does this example then sure.....

[b]you need to get off wikipedia you stupid little fuckt@rd and into the real world. do you even have a turbo in your car you dumb son of a biatch? im guessing no otherwise you would have a idea of why turbos need intercoolers but then again why would you your fucking stupid

See the difference. You guys were having a debate. Just because you dont like what he said you shouldnt find it offensive. He never even called you a name so chill.