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    Default There may be hope for the Datel Lite Blue Tool Battery

    first of all this isnt a thread announcing that datel can hack the psp3000 or any new news about the lawsuit, just some research that shows that if datel actually has a battery that can put the psp 3000 into service mode that it might survive a court fight and eventually be sold.

    http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/new...hp?story=21847
    http://portablevideogamer.com/2009/0...ite-blue-tool/

    these are two main articles that focus on the datel v scee lawsuit, and datels offical statement on the issue.

    “Due to legal action by Sony Computer Entertainment Europe we are currently not able to fulfil orders for the Lite Blue Tool Battery. Any orders received for this product have not been processed and no charges have been made. We will inform customers about availability of this product when this situation has been resolved.”

    sony is suing datel because sony has reason to believe that datel used copyrighted code within the new battery that would place the psp300o into service mode.

    I did a quite a bit of research of copyright and more importantly software copyright. but i did find a legal way for datel to make the lite blue tool battery without violating copyright. it is through a process called clean room reverse engineering.

    Clean room design (also known as the Chinese wall technique) is the method of copying a design by reverse engineering and then recreating it without infringing any of the copyrights and trade secrets associated with the original design. Clean room design is useful as a defense against copyright and trade secret infringement because it relies on independent invention. However, because independent invention is not a defense against patents, clean room designs typically cannot be used to circumvent patent restrictions.

    The term implies that the design team works in an environment that is 'clean', or demonstrably uncontaminated by any knowledge of the proprietary techniques used by the competitor.

    Typically, a clean room design is done by having someone examine the system to be reimplemented and having this person write a specification. This specification is then reviewed by a lawyer to ensure that no copyrighted material is included. The specification is then implemented by a team with no connection to the original examiners.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_room_design

    most major lawsuits have sided with the reverse engineering company and only in one case i could find that the reverse engineers lost and that was due to illegally receiving the sorce code. atari went to the copyright office and told them that there were being sued by nintendo and needed the source code to the nintendo system and they were given it, then they hacked that code to release atari games unliscenced in the nes.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintend...arty_licensing

    nintendo sued galoob over the game genie and lost

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_genie#Legal_issues

    so who knows there may be hope that within 6-8 months that we will be able to buy this battery and maybe it will give DAX one more way to open up the PSP 3000

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    Its not that we can't put CFW on 3000, its that no one bothered releasing a 3000-compatible FW yet because it would get patched as soon as it hits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skv0ra View Post
    Its not that we can't put CFW on 3000, its that no one bothered releasing a 3000-compatible FW yet because it would get patched as soon as it hits.
    Ummm.. no?
    Fat PSP: 1.50 OFW --> 2.80 OFW --> 3.50 OFW --> 3.80 OFW --> 3.90 OFW --> Pandora --> 3.71 m33 --> 3.90 m33 --> 4.01 m33 --> 5.00 m33-3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skv0ra View Post
    Its not that we can't put CFW on 3000, its that no one bothered releasing a 3000-compatible FW yet because it would get patched as soon as it hits.
    The IPL hasnt been hacked yet, and there is no current known way to get the psp 3000 into service mode to boot from the MS. the lite blue tool battery would get us half way to cfw on the psp 3000 but DAX would still need to crack the pre ipl and the ipl.

    this would get him a hell of a lot closer in my opinion.
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