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    Default How Powerful is the NGP?

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    So NGP is more powerful than ipad and iphone?Also I think ngp cpu is 1.2ghz quad.NGP is more powerful than my laptop?
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    You can't judge performance based on clockspeed only, between architectures that is. You'd need some benchmark figures to tell.

    Yes, it's definitely more powerful than any Apple device out there at the moment.

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    This is where the tards come together and try to blag us it'll never beat an Android phone just like last time when they all said a PSP is more powerful than an Iphone4.

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    No you cant but a bloody 266x2 vs 1Ghzx4 on the ARM architecture should say that the NPG is a beast of a hardware!
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    Yes the ngp is powerful and it is more powerful then you think because it boasts a quadcore cpu and a quad core graphics card. However, I consider the 3ds morre powerful in relative terms. The 3ds packs 2 cpu processors. They use 2 because the need to display the image twice on the screen to create the 3d effect. However, if they create a game that doesnt use any 3d then the 3ds would be twice as powerful because it can use both processors to concentrate on one image on the screen just like the ngp would since the ngp has no 3d capabilities. Also, nintendo's systems (in my opnion and many others) have better circuit design and processor design then sony or other gaming companies. So even though nintendo might run at a lower clock speed, their clock speed would be equivlente to 2 to 3 times the clock spped of another company. So if the 3ds has 2 266 arm11 processors that would be equal to about 1.8 gigahertz single processor from Sony.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PSdonkey View Post
    However, I consider the 3ds morre powerful in relative terms. The 3ds packs 2 cpu processors.
    What.

    The 3DS has two, single core processors clocked at ~266 MHz
    The NGP has one, quad core processor clocked at (probably) 1.2-1.5 GHz alongside an ~800 MHz GPU

    The 3DS, if using both CPUs, can do around 500 million calculations per second*
    The NGP, if using all cores and the GPU can do around 5.6 billion calculations per second*

    By this theory, the NGP is around 1,000 times more powerful than the 3DS. Of course when it comes down to architecture, implementation and various other things that number will drastically shrink.

    At the end of the day, when it comes to release, I think that the NGP's GPU alone will be more powerful than the 3DS' CPUs, leaving the NGP to be far, far more powerful in terms of maximum graphics output.

    *Really I mean clock cycles per second, but it's too long for me to explain fully what this means

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    Lets just say that Nintendo can code a game with far fewer resource usage then sony can for the same outcome. That meand nintendo can have fewer lines of code and create a better game while using less resources then an equivalent game created by sony. So nintendo doesnt need as much power then sony needs to create its games. So in essence, nintendo is really packing a 2 gigahertz processor when comparing to sony's games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSdonkey View Post
    Lets just say that Nintendo can code a game with far fewer resource usage then sony can for the same outcome. That meand nintendo can have fewer lines of code and create a better game while using less resources then an equivalent game created by sony. So nintendo doesnt need as much power then sony needs to create its games. So in essence, nintendo is really packing a 2 gigahertz processor when comparing to sony's games.
    I've read, and re-read that quote multiple times now.

    And I've come to multiple conclusions:


    1. There is no way, going by your explanation, that you can compare 2x 266MHz CPU's to a single 2GHz CPU. The 3DS doesn't even come close to a 2GHz CPU.
    2. Sony and Nintendo don't code the majority of the games - developers do (something which I thought you of all people would know o_O). Sony & Nintendo simply provide the hardware and the SDK's.
    3. No matter how efficient the coding in a 3DS game is, regardless of how you look at it, the 3DS could never outperform the NGP.

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    Im not talking about thrid party developers. We can code no wheres near what nintendo or microsoft or sony can code. I'm talking about going head to head with sony and nintendo original games such as mario games and nintendogs etc. Nintendo original first party games are such more advance then any sony first party game (which i dont even know of any). Microsoft actually does a pretty decent job with their first party original games such as fable. What I am saying is that a 2 gigahertz processor running a sony original game doesnt compare to a nintendo orinal game running at the same speed at 2 gigahertz. Nintendo would blow sony out of the water. So running at a lower clock speed is ok for nintendo because they are more proeffecient at coding then sony is and will have equal or greater otcome of gameplay with a lower processor speed.


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